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GeoffPainPhD's avatar

Some time ago I contacted the Office of Senator Rennick asking about a redacted Freedom Of Information (FOI) document obtained from the Australian Bureau of Statistics in January 2022.

It resulted from a meeting between the Australian Bureau of Statistics and a representative of the World Health Organization, specifically to study COVID vaccine Deaths (vaccine related mortality generally referred to the Coroner in Australia).

It says: We will expect to see Thromocytopenia (AZ) Deaths in the coroners (secondary thromocytopenia with the adverse effect of the vaccine).

If vaccines mentioned in part 2, no adverse effect, code U11.9.

Vaccine causing adverse effect code REDACTED

https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/albo-does-not-want-you-to-see-this

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henjin's avatar

In the old MMDS system, the causes of death that are written on the death certificate were not converted to ICD codes by ACME or TRANSAX, but first SuperMICAR converted the causes of death to an internal coding system, then MICAR converted the internal codes to ICD codes, then ACME assigned an underlying cause of death, and then TRANSAX combined redundant causes of death using the linkage provisions of the ICD: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/mmds/about_mmds.htm.

However in the year 2022 CDC began to use a new cause of death coding system called MedCoder which replaced the old MMDS system. MedCoder still relies on ACME and TRANSAX but the SuperMICAR and MICAR components were replaced: https://ncvhs.hhs.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Transcript-Full-Committee-Meeting-July-19-2023.pdf.

So if there's some ICD code which suddenly became more common at the start of 2022, it might be due to the switch from SuperMICAR and MICAR to MedCoder.

For example the number of deaths with MCD N28.8 (Other specified disorders of kidney and ureter) dropped to near zero between December 2021 and January 2022, but N17 (Acute renal failure) had a big increase between December 2021 and January 2022 after which it remained at an elevated level. Or really the increase in N17 was distributed across the whole year of 2021, but there seems to have been a further increase between December 2021 and January 2022 that was mirrored by the sudden drop in deaths with N28.8: https://sars2.net/beaudoin.html. But if you exclude deaths with MCD COVID, then the overall number of deaths with a kidney-related MCD has remained roughly stable since 2020.

Beaudoin also showed that between 2021 and 2022 there was a huge increase in deaths with MCD L98.8 (Other specified disorders of skin and subcutaneous tissue). But he only showed yearly data so you couldn't see that the increase specifically happened between December 2021 and January 2022, and there were more deaths during each month of 2022 than any month of 2021. So I suspect it might have also been due to the switch from SuperMICAR and MICAR to MedCoder: https://sars2.net/beaudoin.html#Increase_in_deaths_with_MCD_other_specified_disorders_of_skin_and_subcutaneous_tissue.

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henjin's avatar

You wrote: "89 deaths from viral vaccines was the most I found from 2018 to current, so I don't where John B. is getting 250 since 2021 from?"

But Beaudoin looked at deaths by multiple cause of death. I got 254 deaths with MCD Y59.0 in 2021-2023 and 84 deaths with UCD Y59.0: sars2.net/rootclaim3.html#Yearly_deaths_at_NVSS_with_underlying_cause_related_to_vaccination.

The page I linked also has R code which shows how you can get the complete list of causes of death for each death record that has UCD Y59.0. The data is not available through CDC WONDER but you have to get it from the fixed-width text files here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data_access/vitalstatsonline.htm#Mortality_Multiple. Often in records where the underlying cause is Y59.0 (Viral vaccines), the immediate cause of death is T88.1 (Other complications following immunization, not elsewhere classified).

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Fantastic. I think CDC stats analysis people use the semantics of T88 in their favor. Meaning "T" is chapter 19 of injury, poisonings, and other causes..., per CCI and billing "cause of death" should be in chapter 20 dx V01-V89. This is probably why no "T's" are in CDC underlying cause of death stats... no incoming help from ICD-11 either. The ICD's are running cover by not creating any proper codes for vax injury and death. Since the WHO manages ICD, it makes sense...

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The ICD-10 code Y59.0 ("Viral vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use") is part of the International Classification of Diseases, 10th Revision (ICD-10), which is maintained by the World Health Organization (WHO). Since ICD-10 is an internationally recognized coding system, Y59.0 is applicable worldwide in any country that uses ICD-10 for medical classification.

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The CDC includes Y59.0 in its medical coding guidelines, but it often directs healthcare providers to use T88.1XXA (Other complications following immunization, initial encounter) or U12.9 (COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects, unspecified) for vaccine-related adverse events, especially in relation to COVID-19.

The CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) does not require ICD-10 codes, but Y59.0 is often used in electronic health records (EHRs) when documenting adverse effects.

The National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which oversees ICD-10-CM in the U.S., officially includes Y59.0 in the ICD-10-CM database.

Insurance Companies Recognition:

Health insurers recognize Y59.0, but they often require additional diagnosis codes to justify claims, such as:

T88.1XXA – Other complications following immunization

T50.905A – Adverse effect of unspecified drug/biological substance

M35.3 – Postviral fatigue syndrome (if applicable)

I40.8 – Other forms of myocarditis (if linked to the vaccine)

Insurers may deny claims if Y59.0 is used alone without supporting documentation of symptoms or specific complications.

Workers’ compensation claims and vaccine injury claims (e.g., through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, VICP) may recognize Y59.0, but legal and medical justification is often required.

Key Takeaways:

Y59.0 is officially recognized but rarely used alone—other codes for symptoms and complications are often needed.

CDC acknowledges it but emphasizes other codes like T88.1 and U12.9 for COVID vaccines.

Insurance companies recognize it but may require more details to approve claims.

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I am sure glad to see your study here.

Here a 10 code I want to share that I study and pray for such a time as this.

Psalm 10 King James Version

1 Why standest thou afar off, O Lord? why hidest thou thyself in times of trouble?

2 The wicked in his pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.

3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth.

4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

5 His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them.

6 He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity.

7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.

8 He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor.

9 He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.

10 He croucheth, and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones.

11 He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see it.

12 Arise, O Lord; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.

13 Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God? he hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require it.

14 Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless.

15 Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.

16 The Lord is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

17 Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:

18 To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.

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henjin's avatar

You quoted Beaudoin as writing: "One interesting find that Aaron Hertzberg found in MN is a death labeled 'eater getting the covid shot' was picked up by the software as 'shot' and was labeled by the software as a W code for gunshot death."

Hertzberg showed an image that featured some fields of the death record here: https://brownstone.org/articles/cdc-altered-death-certificates/. He wrote: "There is no mention of any firearms mishaps on the death certificate. One would have to wonder how such an errant code came to be, especially on a death certificate that contains other ICD 10 shenanigans. It is unlikely that 'Y590' or 'T881' would be 'misspelled' or algorithmically mixed up with 'W34.'"

In the image he showed, the underlying cause of death was listed as W34 (Discharge from other and unspecified firearms). The multiple causes of death were A41.9 (Septicaemia, unspecified), I21.9 (Acute myocardial infarction, unspecified), J18.9 (Pneumonia, unspecified), J96.9 (Respiratory failure, unspecified), and T14.1 (Open wound of unspecified body region). The MCD codes were listed in alphabetical order and it wasn't indicated what part or line of the certificate the ICD codes were assigned to. Under other causes there's the text "ACUTE MYOCARDIAL INFARCTION, RECENT COVID BOOSTER SHOT".

The code T14.1 (Open wound of unspecified body region) was not mentioned by Hertzberg. Was it also assigned automatically based on the text that said "BOOSTER SHOT"? Or could it have been assigned based on some field of the death certificate which was not shown in his image, like for example the fields which ask if the decedent was injured and how the injury occurred? Did Hertzberg have access to all fields of the death certificate?

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Zowe's avatar

The reason a "gunshot wound" injury is assigned when someone uses the term "shot" in the record has to do with the AI that auto-assigns codes. It is a common error in the NLP programming that humans have to over-ride. I have seen the computer assisted coding software assign "gunshot" wound countless times based on terminology like that. This is why we can't rely on AI alone and humans must be involved in data analysis and verification.

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